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Crew Hall by Rupert - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:00am
I need your suggestions for what to do about crew hall this may term, given we can't use the minstrel's gallery. Can we find a room near the kitchens? Or how about a picnic??
by sat - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:02am
Why can't we use the Minstrel's Gallery?
by RTT - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:02am
Rupert said: I need your suggestions for what to do about crew hall this may term.
23 St. Barnabas Road.

You know it makes sense.
by Rupert - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:03am
Their using it to store wine because of the renovations to the master's lodge
by sat - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:05am
Can we not move the wine somewhere else? And promise not to drink it obviously ;-)
by Dubya - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:07am
We always used to have it in the staff canteen when we couldnt use the minstrels gallery
by Dubya - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:07am
but i agree about 23 st barnabas rd. Or maybe the Allhusen room? What else do they use it for most evenings?
by RTT - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:08am
Dubya said: We always used to have it in the staff canteen when we couldnt use the minstrels gallery
Yeah but that was a pain since we had to be out of there by about 2130 and half the time people missed the deadline and got no food.
by RTT - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:09am
Rupert said: Their using it to store wine because of the renovations to the master's lodge
So we could use the Master's Lodge? The builders won't be there in the evening.
by Rupert - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:11am
Dubya said: Or maybe the Allhusen room? What else do they use it for most evenings?
Can't use staff canteen all the time, because a member of staff needs to be there all the time to supervise and there are security issues. The fellows are using the Allhusen room because they don't have their common room in the master's lodge.

Another option is we use the Captain's room! Or set up a little Marquise (sp?) on the Backs...
by Dubya - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:12am
If they just set up 2 tables for us in Nevile's Ct?
by sat - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:13am
BA Rooms? A bit dubious though.
by Dubya - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:13am
What about the old college office, now a supervision room, opposite the porters lodge? It's not used in the evenings and is easily big enough
by Rupert - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:14am
Dubya said: If they just set up 2 tables for us in Nevile's Ct?
Where do we leave everything once we've finished?

Also i don't think they're too keen on that because people will be studying for exams and apparently we're 'rowdy'
by sat - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:14am
Or the junior parlour, except we'ed have to carry the stuff over the road.
by mjb - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:15am
Maybe I should expand the LARD cupboard a bit ?
Otherwise picnicking sounds like a good idea.
Maybe we could do Formal Crew Hall at 23 St. Barnabas ?
by Dubya - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:15am
Also i don't think they're too keen on that because people will be studying for exams and apparently we're 'rowdy'
The porters can keep control of us if we're just opposite them ;)
by Dubya - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:15am
Picnicing is bad if it rains or if it is cold and not everyone has a rab!
by sat - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:17am
I'm not really keen on the idea of cold food/picnic stuff. The whole point of crew hall is we gourge ourselves on far too much pasta/rice/potatoes etc.
by Dubya - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:17am
The BA rooms might be bad as BA's might want to use it but the JCR would be fine. All those JCR people should really be studying for their exams anyway!
by mjb - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:18am
sat said: I'm not really keen on the idea of cold food/picnic stuff. The whole point of crew hall is we gourge ourselves on far too much pasta/rice/potatoes etc.
Crew Hall is normally cold food by the time we get there anyway. :-)

what about the OCR ?
by sat - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:18am
What about the private supply room?
by Rupert - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:18am
Dubya said: What about the old college office
Old college office sounds a good idea. Can't use BA rooms or Junior Parlour 'cos JB won't allow it.

I think you'll find going to Barnabas Rd every day will be a little time-consuming...
by Dubya - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:18am
HOW ARE WE GOING TO PLAY CHINUP CHICKEN?
by sat - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:18am
mjb said: Crew Hall is normally cold food by the time we get there anyway. :-)
Only every other week
by sat - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:19am
Dubya said: HOW ARE WE GOING TO PLAY CHINUP CHICKEN?
I do have a chinup bar going spare remember
by Dubya - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:20am
On what grounds wont the JB let us use the JCR? We can lay plastic sheeting down on the floor if he is concerned about the carpet
by mjb - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:20am
Dubya said: The BA rooms might be bad as BA's might want to use it but the JCR would be fine. All those JCR people should really be studying for their exams anyway!
Why don't we just block book the BA Room kitchen for the term ?
by Martin - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:20am
RTT said: Yeah but that was a pain since we had to be out of there by about 2130 and half the time people missed the deadline and got no food.
Agreed, canteen was no good - not enough time to get there.

Old kitchens or allhusen room depending on what is available? They won't like it but it needs to be somewhere. Either that or they find somewhere else to put the wine - surely that's easier than anything else? Alternatively, how much wine is there? Would there be room for both crew hall and wine with some suitable agreement/arrangement?

Somewhere like E1 would be a pain in the butt for Dan and really impractical.

Barnabus road - great for the 7 - 11 % of those elligible who live locally, not good for everyone else.

There are other rooms in college.... e.g. Jnr Parlour, WPR etc - but they would need dr kingsbury/prof proctor on board to arrange for porters to move the food...
by Dubya - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:20am
sat said: Only every other week
And dont forget... you cant have a microwave on the backs!
by mjb - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:21am
mjb said: Why don't we just block book the BA Room kitchen for the term ?
And cook stuff ourselves on a rota system. Should be cheaper than crew hall.
by sat - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:21am
I still think trying to get the wine moved/some of the wine moved to make space is the best idea. We'll all turn out to help move it.
by mjb - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:23am
Put the wine in the Captain's room ??
by Dubya - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:24am
Put the wine in the wren library under a sheet
by RTT - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:25am
Which other colleges do Crew Hall? Could we get college to pay one of them to include us? Dining with Maggie every night would be hilarious. Or perhaps Selwyn as they have good food.
by out of touch - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:26am
Dubya said: HOW ARE WE GOING TO PLAY CHINUP CHICKEN?
So you're rowing then? Or the coxes seat?
by Dubya - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:27am
Why dont we eat at the boat house? We can ferry the food by car and set the microwave up there. Whoever's done early has got to do the ferrying. Whoever's done late has to ferry the dirty stuff back
by RTT - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:28am
I feel a new poll coming on....
by Dubya - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:28am
out of touch said: So you're rowing then? Or the coxes seat?
I'm not doing either. I'm cycling in the evening with CUCC and then coming to crew hall late. Then at the last minute when someone gets injured in the 2nd eight or below... there will be a backup plan
by Dubya - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:31am
why not put the wine in the boatman's workshop? maybe iain's mood will improve...
by Dan - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:31am
that last one sounds quite appealing but i suspect they wont go for it somehow.

What is really impressive though is that 33 posts have been generated in under half an hour. Pretty good going really.

My room is not a good plan. Firstly it is a complete mess at the moment and i dont anticipate this changing in the immediate future (meetings will probably involve lots of standing round). Secondly I simply dont want it taken over by everyone all term! St Barnabas Rd also isnt good. Nor is cooking in the BA rooms - the point of crew hall is that you can get the food straight away cooking would take too much time.

I reckon we get them to shift the wine. there must be other places to store it all.
by Dan - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:33am
Iains repairs however might not!
by sat - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:33am
I reckon we get them to shift the wine. there must be other places to store it all.
Depending on how much there is, we may not even have to move it all. Or, if the chairs and stuff are still in there, we could take them out and store them somewhere else (eg bh) to make room for the wine and us. I'm sure college would prefer to have us looking after their chairs than their wine!
by Dubya - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:35am
Dan said:What is really impressive though is that 33 posts have been generated in under half an hour. Pretty good going really.
Tom and John anyone? The really impressive thing is that this board actually has a point to it
by RTT - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:37am
Dubya said: Tom and John anyone? The really impressive thing is that this board actually has a point to it
So did that. It took my mind off bumps!
by Martin - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:37am
What do college suggest?

Crew hall is a long-standing and significant commitment by the college to support the rowing in May term. It is not a superfluous perk. Everyone knows that college expects people to eat in hall (evidenced by extremely limited kitchen facilities) - so crew hall is the only way for the top 3 VIIIs to eat properly & have time for revision etc etc.

The catering department are perhaps not being proactive in making suggestions, but the Dean of college might be able to help getting them to suggest somewhere for it to happen.
by Dubya - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:39am
At least one of these ideas must be acceptable. I am going back to work! I agree with Dan though that cooking ourselves, using the captain's room, having cold food, and using St Barnabas Rd are all unacceptable.
by Dubya - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:41am
Martin said: The catering department are perhaps not being proactive in making suggestions, but the Dean of college might be able to help getting them to suggest somewhere for it to happen.
Or he could just have them put the wine in his rooms. They couldn't object to that and it's not like he's short the space!
by Martin - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 11:43am
Dubya said: Or he could just have them put the wine in his rooms. They couldn't object to that and it's not like he's short the space!
Again, just comes down to how much wine. Reckon you could get quite a bit of wine into one or two of the music practice rooms. Or maybe the chair store under the frazer room - that has quite a bit of space.
by dw229 - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 12:16pm
I reckon the chances of getting the college to move the wine are pretty much nil - there's probably quite a lot and they won't want all that old wine being shifted about.

I always thought it was silly how crew hall made everyone fat by bumps anyway, so why don't we do something a bit healthier than eating huge meals at 9pm? Boat club lunch anyone instead?

Alternatively, you can have it in the room above mine - C2, 4 Jesus Lane - as noone lives there as far as I can tell.
by Dan - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 12:19pm
thats crap. although its not ideal that its so late you need to eat properly and any other option is just going to be later still.
by mjb - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 1:18pm
How about "Crew Afternoon Tea" at about 5pm or so ?? instead of Crew Hall at 9pm.
by Dubya - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 1:59pm
You can't have people eating just before they go rowing, it's a recipe for disaster and if Hugh is in the boat excessive flatulence
by Martin - Thu 15th Apr 2004, 3:16pm
Dubya said: You can't have people eating just before they go rowing, it's a recipe for disaster and if Hugh is in the boat excessive flatulence
Indeed. Eating after exercise is important to regenerate blood glucose levels and generally maintain a good state of health. It also prevents back injuries.

Crew Hall is not a frivolous social engagement. How can we expect college to continue providing it if it is perceived as such?
by Rob - Fri 16th Apr 2004, 7:42am
Is some kind of composite solution possible - the private supply room when it is free and then using the rooms of those people who live on Great Court and New Court up to a maximum of one visit per room per week. This might mean we missed out some of the time but it would be much better than nothing.
by jmg - Fri 16th Apr 2004, 8:08am
Martin said: It also prevents back injuries.
As does wearing leggings
by Martin - Fri 16th Apr 2004, 8:34am
jmg said: As does wearing leggings
.. and woolly hats of course.
by jmg - Fri 16th Apr 2004, 9:30am
I think you should just block-book the upstairs room at the Maypole for the whole of term. Nothing like an all-day breakfast at 9pm.
by Dan N - Fri 16th Apr 2004, 10:02am
if i carted all the wine to my room for say a nominal fee of £100, then by the end of term the charge for moving it all back would probably only by £50 (depending on attendance at my parties), thereby the college are effectively saving £50 and my revision will pass a little less painfully. sorted.
by naive - Fri 16th Apr 2004, 10:48am
Would this idea have come from your *brilliant* plan to "store" the wine we won at Cardinals in your room? Are we ever going to see that drink again?
by Dubya - Fri 16th Apr 2004, 11:55am
jmg said: I think you should just block-book the upstairs room at the Maypole for the whole of term. Nothing like an all-day breakfast at 9pm.
a bit more expensive than hall though... for not quite as much food. If only we could have hall prices upstairs in the maypole!
by jmg - Fri 16th Apr 2004, 12:06pm
Dubya said: If only we could have hall prices upstairs in the maypole!
Maybe you could negotiate a favourable rate with Mario, bulk-buying carbohydrates?
by dw229 - Fri 16th Apr 2004, 3:40pm
Interesting idea...nice food and I bet they'd give us a discount if we went everyday...£4 a day?
by Dubya - Fri 16th Apr 2004, 6:09pm
I think crew hall costs grads between 3.00 and 3.50 a day... so it's not that different!
by mjb - Fri 16th Apr 2004, 6:16pm
But if we did decide to opt out, we'd have to persuade college to give crew hall undergrads a kfc reduction to compensate. Doesn't sound too likely.
by Rupert - Sun 18th Apr 2004, 9:51am
Does anyone know what other colleges do for crew hall?
by esther - Sun 18th Apr 2004, 12:17pm
Rupert said: Does anyone know what other colleges do for crew hall?
Learn to cook
by Dubya - Sun 18th Apr 2004, 1:32pm
Jesus definitely does. I think LMBC do.
by becca - Mon 19th Apr 2004, 3:34pm
Christ's have crew hall. They eat it in their canteen bit, where all normal meals are eaten.
by Rupert - Tue 20th Apr 2004, 4:14pm
Dan and i got a porter to show us what's in the minstrel's gallery. There's not much wine, but loads of kitchen stuff. They use it to prepare drinks and nibbles (I presume) for the fellows who are using the Allhusen and OCR. I'm sure they could create a small space for us, so i'm trying to argue our case with Reinhardt.
by Rupert - Wed 21st Apr 2004, 2:45pm
Right - final verdict is we'll have crew hall in... the bar! Reinhardt is going to move a microwave and everything over there soon, but we will have to wait until monday before it starts.

I think this is about as good as we're going to get, and it shouldn't get too busy in the bar this term. Hope this satisfies everybody and thanks for your suggestions.
by Al Coholic - Wed 21st Apr 2004, 4:14pm
Marvellous...
by Eton Boy - Wed 21st Apr 2004, 7:12pm
But Al Coholic wasn't on the list Dan sent round...
by Don't let Ingram near the bar - Thu 22nd Apr 2004, 8:11am
Rupert said: Right - final verdict is we'll have crew hall in... the bar!
Oh blimey, this is a recipe for disaster! I predict an extended beeramid scenario!
by Andy - Thu 22nd Apr 2004, 9:14am
Wouldn't the BA rooms be a bit better than the bar? There's a kitchen and a proper table in there, and I expect it'll be quieter than the bar at about 8, especially towards the end of the week.
by Mike - Thu 22nd Apr 2004, 9:18am
Andy said: Wouldn't the BA rooms be a bit better than the bar? There's a kitchen and a proper table in there, and I expect it'll be quieter than the bar at about 8, especially towards the end of the week.
The BA society wouldn't necessarily be very happy about it though. There would be more of a case for using the JCR, as everyone in the boat club is a member of the JCR. Not everyone is in the BA society...
by Rupert - Thu 22nd Apr 2004, 11:20am
I think they want it in the bar, firstly because they have hot plate, microwave and can store plates & cutlery there but also so they can keep an eye on us!
by mjb - Thu 22nd Apr 2004, 11:21am
Where can we play chin up chicken in the bar ?
by Rupert - Thu 22nd Apr 2004, 11:55am
mjb said: Where can we play chin up chicken in the bar ?
We don't - it's not like i've ever seen you do it matt?!
by gf not being entirely serious, but neither has everyone else been - Thu 22nd Apr 2004, 11:59am
Surely the appropriately-gendered squad (i.e. the one on earlies) could knock up a tasty spread atbh by the time the others get off the water? If it's good enough for bcd...
by Dubya - Fri 23rd Apr 2004, 10:38am
Just need to make sure we don't get shoved in the bar again next year - this had better not set a precedent!
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