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by RTT - Wed 7th Mar 2007, 9:25pm
Neil T said: Two more meta-clues, as noone seems to be able to get Tom's:

She carried heroes to glory, including '5' (a novice) and a stunner who'd changed sides (8)

Who had burning desire for Fair Maid of Kent? (5, 6)

(Wikipedia might be helpful in understanding the second.)
1) Valkyrie

2) Black Prince
by Neil T - Wed 7th Mar 2007, 9:15pm
Two more meta-clues, as noone seems to be able to get Tom's:

She carried heroes to glory, including '5' (a novice) and a stunner who'd changed sides (8)

Who had burning desire for Fair Maid of Kent? (5, 6)

(Wikipedia might be helpful in understanding the second.)
by RTT - Wed 7th Mar 2007, 7:11pm
Neil T said: 1) The definition is 'A rallying cry', and the answer is formed from two shorter words (total 8 letters) meaning 'leader', e.g. 'king', 'CO', etc.
This is the correct interpretation. I'd refer you back to the qualifier stated before the clue - not everyone reading this site will be able to get it.
by gf - Wed 7th Mar 2007, 2:03pm
Bit of a guess said: clutter?
Indeed.
by Bit of a guess - Wed 7th Mar 2007, 1:24pm
gf said: How about a "meta-clue" in the meantime...

RTT clue could create chaos. (7)
clutter?
by gf - Wed 7th Mar 2007, 11:49am
How about a "meta-clue" in the meantime...

RTT clue could create chaos. (7)
by Neil T - Wed 7th Mar 2007, 11:25am
gf said: Hmm... within rally co-drivers' pacenotes, there are various four-letter words which might somehow be applicable ("bump", "fast", "easy"...) but I can't find a combination which sits well with the rest of the clue.
I'm baffled by this. The only two interpretations I can come up with are:

1) The definition is 'A rallying cry', and the answer is formed from two shorter words (total 8 letters) meaning 'leader', e.g. 'king', 'CO', etc.

2) The whole clue is a cryptic definition, possibly punning on 'rally' meaning 'to drive a car in a rally race' or 'to get better' or 'to demonstrate/protest', and with 'the two leaders' possibly referring to the double headship.
by gf - Wed 7th Mar 2007, 11:12am
RTT said: One for the venatoris:

A rallying cry for the two leaders (4,4).
Are we over-complicating this one? Could it just be "Hold fast" ???
by gf - Wed 7th Mar 2007, 11:06am
RTT said: One for the venatoris:

A rallying cry for the two leaders (4,4).
Hmm... within rally co-drivers' pacenotes, there are various four-letter words which might somehow be applicable ("bump", "fast", "easy"...) but I can't find a combination which sits well with the rest of the clue.
by Joff - Wed 7th Mar 2007, 10:44am
well yes, I got that much. didn't know if there was an additional definition or bit that I missed. I suppose 'that's what andy thinks we are' but surely the 'but different' should go next to the 'same woe'? bah. one day, one day I will understand these stupid things..
by Richard - Wed 7th Mar 2007, 10:29am
MC Chung said: same woe - that's what we are, according to Andy, but different this time! (7)
I'm not particularly good at cryptic crosswords, but "same woe" is an anagram of awesome, which seems to fit the bill.
by RTT - Tue 6th Mar 2007, 8:24pm
Neil T said: I guess one of the words is probably 'head'?
Nope.
by Neil T - Tue 6th Mar 2007, 9:49am
A rallying cry for the two leaders (4,4).
Struggling a bit with this one. I guess one of the words is probably 'head'?

A couple of people have asked for an explanation of the (6, 8) clue below, so here it is:

'First and Third decked in gold' = 'gold' with the first and third letters removed ('decked') = OD

so: 'First and Third decked in gold and blue remarkably' = OD and BLUE 'remarkably' (anagrammed) = DOUBLE

'crown' = HEAD

'end of Bumps' = S

'with it' = HIP (as in 'trendy')

and the whole clue is also the definition.
by RTT - Mon 5th Mar 2007, 12:51am
One for the venatoris:

A rallying cry for the two leaders (4,4).
by awesome! - Sun 4th Mar 2007, 11:22pm
but I don't think I got most of that clue..! (which reflects my crossword inability rather than your clue ming!)
by MC Chung - Sun 4th Mar 2007, 10:57pm
same woe - that's what we are, according to Andy, but different this time! (7)
by MC Chung - Sun 4th Mar 2007, 9:50pm
Double Headship. Not bad Neil, I'm impressed.
by Neil T - Sun 4th Mar 2007, 9:02pm
Not from tomorrow's Times Crossword (Mars Bar for the first correct answer):

First and Third decked in gold and blue remarkably crown end of Bumps with it (6, 8)
by past it - Mon 22nd Jan 2007, 10:05am
Neil T said: I don't know of anything lower than this.
Diving is.. I'd be eligible to dive 'masters'. If I could dive that is. It caters for 'adults of all abilities', so I presume the lower limit is 18.
by Neil T - Fri 28th Jul 2006, 7:59am
RTT said: We were wondering at work today which sport has the lowest age for veteran / master status. Rowing (27) is obviously pretty low, but then this is mainly because it is sub-categorised and thus flexible enough to have something approaching a fair system for any age. Still, there must be something lower. Women's gymnastics maybe (bet that'd be about 16....)?
In swimming the qualification age for 'Masters' events is 25. I don't know of anything lower than this.

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