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by RTT - Wed 7th Mar 2007, 9:25pm
Neil T said: Two more meta-clues, as noone seems to be able to get Tom's: She carried heroes to glory, including '5' (a novice) and a stunner who'd changed sides (8) Who had burning desire for Fair Maid of Kent? (5, 6) (Wikipedia might be helpful in understanding the second.) 1) Valkyrie 2) Black Prince

by Neil T - Wed 7th Mar 2007, 9:15pm
Two more meta-clues, as noone seems to be able to get Tom's: She carried heroes to glory, including '5' (a novice) and a stunner who'd changed sides (8) Who had burning desire for Fair Maid of Kent? (5, 6) (Wikipedia might be helpful in understanding the second.)

by RTT - Wed 7th Mar 2007, 7:11pm
Neil T said: 1) The definition is 'A rallying cry', and the answer is formed from two shorter words (total 8 letters) meaning 'leader', e.g. 'king', 'CO', etc. This is the correct interpretation. I'd refer you back to the qualifier stated before the clue - not everyone reading this site will be able to get it.

by gf - Wed 7th Mar 2007, 2:03pm
Bit of a guess said: clutter? Indeed.

by Bit of a guess - Wed 7th Mar 2007, 1:24pm
gf said: How about a "meta-clue" in the meantime... RTT clue could create chaos. (7) clutter?

by gf - Wed 7th Mar 2007, 11:49am
How about a "meta-clue" in the meantime... RTT clue could create chaos. (7)

by Neil T - Wed 7th Mar 2007, 11:25am
gf said: Hmm... within rally co-drivers' pacenotes, there are various four-letter words which might somehow be applicable ("bump", "fast", "easy"...) but I can't find a combination which sits well with the rest of the clue. I'm baffled by this. The only two interpretations I can come up with are: 1) The definition is 'A rallying cry', and the answer is formed from two shorter words (total 8 letters) meaning 'leader', e.g. 'king', 'CO', etc. 2) The whole clue is a cryptic definition, possibly punning on 'rally' meaning 'to drive a car in a rally race' or 'to get better' or 'to demonstrate/protest', and with 'the two leaders' possibly referring to the double headship.

by gf - Wed 7th Mar 2007, 11:12am
RTT said: One for the venatoris: A rallying cry for the two leaders (4,4). Are we over-complicating this one? Could it just be "Hold fast" ???

by gf - Wed 7th Mar 2007, 11:06am
RTT said: One for the venatoris: A rallying cry for the two leaders (4,4). Hmm... within rally co-drivers' pacenotes, there are various four-letter words which might somehow be applicable ("bump", "fast", "easy"...) but I can't find a combination which sits well with the rest of the clue.

by Joff - Wed 7th Mar 2007, 10:44am
well yes, I got that much. didn't know if there was an additional definition or bit that I missed. I suppose 'that's what andy thinks we are' but surely the 'but different' should go next to the 'same woe'? bah. one day, one day I will understand these stupid things..

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