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Are hugs continuous or discrete? | ||||||||||||||||
With valentines day just around the corner are hugs are discrete unit, such as a number of hugs? or are hugs a continuous variable, such as a period of hugs?
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by Swords - Tue 14th Feb 2012, 10:15pm | ||||||||||||||||
Thomas said: With valentines day just around the corner are hugs are discrete unit, such as a number of hugs? or are hugs a continuous variable, such as a period of hugs? Is this not clear from the presence of a plural? I'm trying to think of a case where it would be correct to have "less [pluralised noun]"More hugs and less hugs: 22% More hugs and fewer hugs: 44% It doesn't matter but I want more hugs: 33% | ||||||||||||||||
by Aaron - Tue 14th Feb 2012, 10:33pm | ||||||||||||||||
Hugs = discrete = fewer Hugging = continuous = less Any continuous variable can be broken up into discrete units; when talking about the variable in general "less" should be used but when using the units "fewer" should be used. This seems fairly obvious. | ||||||||||||||||
by Thomas - Wed 15th Feb 2012, 8:50am | ||||||||||||||||
Swords said: Is this not clear from the presence of a plural? I'm trying to think of a case where it would be correct to have "less [pluralised noun]" less sheep, fewer sheep. | ||||||||||||||||
by Chris E - Wed 15th Feb 2012, 11:24pm | ||||||||||||||||
I think in "less sheep" the "sheep" is more closely related to the singular than the plural form of the discrete sense of the word. I would suggest "data", which is the plural rather than the singular if treated as discrete, but is commonly used in a continuous sense (whereas the singular is not). I think arguably a noun being used in a continuous sense simply doesn't have the singular/plural property. It probably does more usually match the singular form of the discrete sense - but maybe will more often match the plural form if the discrete sense refers to a very small object. | ||||||||||||||||
by Neil T - Thu 16th Feb 2012, 9:44pm | ||||||||||||||||
Swords - what about "A typical Oxford student has less brains than his Cambridge counterpart"? | ||||||||||||||||
by Swords - Fri 17th Feb 2012, 8:32pm | ||||||||||||||||
Neil T said: Swords - what about "A typical Oxford student has less brains than his Cambridge counterpart"? I'd argue that in this context "brains" is a continuous noun meaning "intellect" rather than the plural of brain. |