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Contacts by Andy - Fri 29th Jul 2005, 11:33am
I sent an email to the contacts@cucbc.org list this morning, and I haven't yet received it. Can anyone who is also a member of said list confirm that it isn't working please. Cheers.

by Richard - Fri 29th Jul 2005, 2:21pm
Andy said: I sent an email to the contacts@cucbc.org list this morning, and I haven't yet received it. Can anyone who is also a member of said list confirm that it isn't working please. Cheers. Now that I've graduated and my e-mail address has been terminated, I can't check for you - but the contacts@cucbc.org list wasn't working for most of Easter term - might be a hang-over from that.

by Martin - Fri 29th Jul 2005, 4:21pm
No, haven't received anything. Do emails to contacts require approval? Maybe it's waiting for this - or been deemed unsuitable?!

by jpd - Mon 1st Aug 2005, 12:10pm
Martin said: No, haven't received anything. Do emails to contacts require approval? Maybe it's waiting for this - or been deemed unsuitable?! Our router has been reset and I've not yet reset port forwarding for my server (which has also overheated) - will get it fixed and the last fortnight's mail moving this evening (we are looking for a better solution, but our host doesn't allow email with more than 100 recipients - contacts is over 500 - and one of our criteria is not to be in any way reliant on any part of the CUDN or property of the university or colleges).

by Martin - Mon 1st Aug 2005, 12:25pm
Are you sending it from your Freedom2surf connection? If so, why is there a limit?

by RTT - Mon 1st Aug 2005, 12:31pm
Martin said: Are you sending it from your Freedom2surf connection? If so, why is there a limit? There is a limit on how long I can cope with the temperature warning going off on JPDs PC before I unplug it.

by Martin - Mon 1st Aug 2005, 1:12pm
RTT said: There is a limit on how long I can cope with the temperature warning going off on JPDs PC before I unplug it. And the 100 recipient thing?

by Simon - Mon 1st Aug 2005, 2:41pm
jpd said: and one of our criteria is not to be in any way reliant on any part of the CUDN or property of the university or colleges). Just out of interest, how come?

by jpd - Mon 1st Aug 2005, 2:52pm
Martin said: And the 100 recipient thing? freedom2surf has no limit - hence why I use it. Our web host (OneAndOne) apply the limit. Currently all cucbc.org mail is sent to their servers but must be processed elsewhere to avoid the limit (and for anyone smart enough to spot the solution of splitting the email into groups of 99 recipients, I'm not allowed more than 15 emails every 10 minutes or something similar, which could easily be used up with other emails flying around as well). We're looking into a getting a better host.

by jpd - Mon 1st Aug 2005, 3:35pm
Simon said: Just out of interest, how come? In the summer of 2004 the newly appointed proctor decided that the CUCBC is not a university society as it doesn't have any members (i.e. you don't "join" the CUCBC directly, the CUCBC doesn't have a list of all those who row for its affiliated clubs etc.). The definition of a club is defined somewhere in the university statutes - the previous proctor was insightful enough to recognise that the CUCBC is a useful body and listed us as a club so we could get the usual array of benefits of being a university club. The new proctor was obviously not a fan of rowing and so those benefits were removed. As part of not being a university club we were no longer to have our own email lists or the old http://www.cam.ac.uk/societies/boatclubs web address, hence the new cucbc.org address and email lists. I did persuade the computing service to agree to let us keep the old ones for a year to forward to the new ones (this still happens and may well continue to do so based on their ability to shut down Hermes accounts when students leave :-). Using college boat club servers would always be problematic as different webmasters will be from different colleges, leaving them with little control over the server, and no access to it when it goes wrong (Downing physically lost their server for four months). The SRCF was considered but they have a 100MB account limit which was less space than the message boards on the old site used (if you don't believe that, think of the pictures on the AYBABTU topic). They were not keen on dealing with large email lists either.

by Martin - Mon 1st Aug 2005, 4:56pm
jpd said: (we are looking for a better solution, but our host doesn't allow email with more than 100 recipients ... ) Sorry, I understand what you were saying now. I initially read this to mean you were using them for some reason. :-) Presumably you have already tried clearing all the dust out of your CPU heatsink?!

by jpd - Mon 1st Aug 2005, 5:08pm
Martin said: Presumably you have already tried clearing all the dust out of your CPU heatsink?! There are two main problems: 1) Location: To keep everything quiet it's in a cupboard in our attic room which probably gets 10C hotter than elsewhere in our house. 2) BIOS Battery: is dead, so the CPU temperate alarm resets to the minimum when we get a power cut. So it's not a problem without a solution.

by Simon - Mon 1st Aug 2005, 5:36pm
jpd said: In the summer of 2004 the newly appointed proctor decided that the CUCBC is not a university society... Not what you needed. Luckily there's a new proctor every year - have you tried your luck with this year's yet?

by Richard - Mon 1st Aug 2005, 8:33pm
Can the CUCBC committee not be counted as actual members of the society, with Pete Convey as Senior Tresurer?

by Simon - Mon 1st Aug 2005, 9:50pm
Richard said: Can the CUCBC committee not be counted as actual members of the society, with Pete Convey as Senior Tresurer? Pete's not a member of the University; however there is a CUCBC Senior Treasurer who will be in charge of the books. I do also wonder if this is part of the Sports Syndicate's attempts to take over everything (although they may be slightly nicer towards rowing than they were in 2001).

by jpd - Tue 2nd Aug 2005, 3:51pm
Simon said: have you tried your luck with this year's yet? I don't think so (yet), although I wouldn't know; if we can get the email lists working professionally elsewhere (we now have many more lists and aliases than the computing service would allow us) then there is virtually no benefit to being a university society* since we get no money from the university as we have no members and enter no competitions. * there may be benefits of which I'm not aware - for example, the university may give official clubs some legal backing.

by Mike - Tue 2nd Aug 2005, 4:59pm
jpd said: the university may give official clubs some legal backing. I believe that as a University Society you are covered for public liability under University insurance policies. This has come in useful before (for societies I've been involved with) when seeking permission to put banners over Sidney Street and also for playing gigs in certain places. What benefits that would confer on CUCBC, I don't know.

by Andy - Wed 3rd Aug 2005, 3:07pm
Yay, some three days late, my email has made it off the server :-) Not too bad, considering I'm still waiting for a box I posted from Boston, 9 months ago...