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from Simon, Mon 5th Jul, 8:15am

You're rowing at bow, you've just started your race, and your seat is stuck fast. What do you do?

by Dubya - Mon 5th Jul 2004, 1:54pm

Simon said: You're rowing at bow, you've just started your race, and your seat is stuck fast. What do you do?

Should remind any impressionable readers, this is not a good idea in bumps, no umpire will come to pick you up out of the water!

by Tom C - Mon 5th Jul 2004, 5:20pm

Dubya said: Should remind any impressionable readers, this is not a good idea in bumps, no umpire will come to pick you up out of the water!

But why would you need to be picked up out of the knee deep cam?

by Alex - Tue 6th Jul 2004, 11:10am

because you've been clobbered by an oar

by Tom C - Tue 6th Jul 2004, 11:54am

Fair enough.

by dw229 - Tue 6th Jul 2004, 7:07pm

I think we should do some tests to determine whether rowing arms+back or ejection makes the boat quicker.

by jpd - Tue 6th Jul 2004, 9:03pm

dw229 said: I think we should do some tests to determine whether rowing arms+back or ejection makes the boat quicker.

And exactly where are we going to find anyone stupid enough to participa...

RTT?

by Tom C - Tue 6th Jul 2004, 10:10pm

We could also determine the minimum number of rowers which jumping out is the better option for.

by Smiley - Tue 6th Jul 2004, 10:41pm

Tom C said: We could also determine the minimum number of rowers which jumping out is the better option for.

I think RTT and Ingers would prefer that to be: "We could also determine the minimum number of rowers for whom jumping out is the better option." :)

by Tom C - Tue 6th Jul 2004, 10:58pm

On the other hand, a careful English speaker might be aggrieved by the long vowel sound (whom) whose placement gives the sentence a somewhat disjointed feeling.

by jpd - Wed 7th Jul 2004, 6:57am

Tom C said: ...(whom) whose...

But having two such sounds in a row is OK?

by dw229 - Wed 7th Jul 2004, 11:39am

Surely everyone should have to undergo the ejection test before bumps, so they know what to do in the event of seat failure?

by Sarah - Wed 7th Jul 2004, 12:35pm

this reminds me of an WS3 eights race against the CUW dev squad, at Bedford Quarts - back in 2002...

our bow girl came off her seat in the start and couldn't get back on, she spend the whole race rowing arms/body only and sliding a little (across the bumpy bit of a Sims, nice for gripping feet when you step into a boat, not nice against your bottom)... we got rowed through (and couldn't quite work out why - as none of us, not even me at 2 had noticed... yes I noticed it was bouncy, but I'm not in the habit of turning around in the middle of a race)

onlookers on the bank, busy criticising her 'technique' also failed to notice that she wasn't actually sliding with the rest of us...

bowgirl ripped lycra, badly grazed skin and was very stiff and sore for the next few days - she valiantly rowed in the final of S4 4+ - but we lost that too...

I think that you would have to have a total equipment failure (ie seat would not slide) before it is worth not getting back on ... best thing to do is stop rowing, balance blade on saxboard out of water, get seat moving again, get back on and hope your antics have put the oppo off!

- I do admire the Harvard cox being able to steer down the booms with only 3 bowsiders...

by Dan - Wed 7th Jul 2004, 8:43pm

its also reminiscent of a recent day 1 lents race where our very own colvin caught a crab that left his seat sideways and both of us unable to row full slide...

by Eton Boy - Wed 7th Jul 2004, 8:44pm

I have, however, participated in a race in which jumping ship would probably have been the best option. Our 2 mans's bowside scull snapped 1km into the 2nd round of J15 4x+ at Nat Schools 1999... despite Mr Grenfell, now at Queens', not bothering to swim for it, we still managed to record a quicker final 500m than a couple of other crews...

by Dubya - Wed 7th Jul 2004, 9:02pm

Dan said: its also reminiscent of a recent day 1 lents race where our very own colvin caught a crab that left his seat sideways and both of us unable to row full slide...

Next time it happens to a crew I'm in, I'm just going to shout JUMP!!!! very loudly

by Simon - Wed 7th Jul 2004, 10:27pm

While we're buftying, I remember a May bumps - 2000 I think - when Caius III were denied blades on the Saturday. They'd just missed a bump near the start as the crew 2 in front were really shocking, then missed out on the overbump by about a canvas in the gut. Rather than easy (there's loads of space behind) and wait for a gap, the cox ploughs into the clearing crews and bow loses his spoon. They miss the double over bump by less than a length by the pink house - might have been different if bow had bailed.
But then would he be entitled to the blade?

by Neeps and Tatties - Mon 12th Jul 2004, 8:19am

It should be noted, as far as I can remember [and I am expecting a pedant now to check], that both Bumps and Henley rules make it quite clear that crews must start and finish races with the same number of crew members. Otherwise, why wouldn't you, half-a-length down on "entering the Enclosures" (I have always found this a curious term for a number of reasons) simply jettison your cox? This ruling was also the source of some serious disputes in the past when, for example, a cox's hat, dropped into the water on the Long Reach, was "bumped" by the crew behind.

by dw229 - Mon 12th Jul 2004, 8:39am

I do believe (according to rec.sport.rowing) that the cox HAS to be present at the start and finish, but all crew members only at the start...(for Henley)

by Polishing my nice quarts pot - Mon 12th Jul 2004, 11:55am

i noticed that bow was wearing knee-high tights, which proves that even the toughest americans are just a bunch of big girls.

by Sarah - Mon 12th Jul 2004, 2:26pm

in coxless rowing, the only thing that has to cross the finish line is the bow of the boat - worth remembering if you fall in close to the finish line, make sure you swim your boat across the line (happened to a bloke I knew when he was a junior, miles ahead of the oppo, got a bit over confident, was grinning at spectators and adoring parents, fell in about 10 feet from the line... swam with boat, duely won nice pot)