First and Third Trinity Boat Club

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The Justice: In the Beginning

Herein lies the story of the conception of The Justice - a few select emails from the soc-rowing-trinity and justice@egroups.com mailing lists of January and February 2000.

From: Simon Case
To: First and Third
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 6:01 PM
Subject: Oh no, here we go

Fellow oarspersons, past and present,

I'd like to ask you all about something. It will hopefully start a furious debate, and provide a great deal of amusement for all.

Ever heard of the Downing Tribe, or the forthcoming CCC (Caius Club Clan)? Most will have done, but for those who haven't they are the "social" sides to these colleges boat clubs. The Tribe has grown in stature and legend since its birth.

We obviously hate these people and don't like anything they do, but these things are a good idea. Perhaps more of an active social side of the club, away from the bloody river, which spans boats of all standards, and, dare I say it, both genders, might prove to be a bit of fun. It can be as formal, informal, silly, sober (hopefully not too sober) etc as we like.

What do you all think? There will of course have to be some kind of steering committee involved. Oh, and one other point, it will be for all, and it will not seek to exist in its own right outside the boatclub, and will not be a launching pad for pathetic Gent's VIIIs, although it could be a pathetic pad for launching Cardinal's mixed crews.

There you have it. Discuss.

From: Simon Blackburn
Cc: First and Third
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: Oh no, here we go

They're basically drinking societies - so ours would end up being a rowers' version of the turtles/cobblers/slappers(whatever the birds call themselves these days).

I thought the tribe was men only, though I could be wrong. I certainly know that they have an 'ugly stick' which they sit in the bar with, waiting for ugly people to come in, and then go and tap them on the shoulder with to show to rest of the group that an ugly person has just walked in. I think no one outside the tribe is meant to know what the stick represents... whoops...

I not giving an opinion here, just informing the debate...

From: Emily Booker
To: Simon Blackburn
Cc: First and Third
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: Oh no, here we go

although this is a very interesting topic can we discuss instead 'irritating arseholes in the computer room who have extremely loud and annoying ringing tones on their bloody mobiles which they insist on talking into in unnecessarily loud voices in the manner of someone who is taking the call under the flight path of concorde and not in a place of work and contemplation, and emailing'

I would be happy to hear your views, though I think you know mine and 'lining up and shooting' feature quite heavily in them.

love and lots of fluffy hugs Bookie

From: Simon Case
To: Emily Booker
Cc: Simon Blackburn, First and Third
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: Oh no, here we go

These groups are certainly drinking societies, and The Tribe is men only. Ours would be for as many genders as we could find/invent. That's why ours would be better. [...] The purpose of having our own Tribe or whatever, is to [...] get some intra-boatclub action going (not that I'm saying there isn't any already). Lets get the whole boatclub, top to bottom, side to side, represented together, and have some fun. I for one don't know what most of you lot look like out of lycra!!

S.

From: Cass Chideock
To: soc-rowing-trinity@lists.cam.ac.uk
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: Oh no, here we go

I think this is a rather groovy idea, although, not knowing much about the Tribe etc, I don't know quite what this would entail. I'm not too impressed by Blackburn's ugly stick story though, maybe I'm just scared!

Cass

From: Simon Case
To: Cass Chideock
Cc: soc-rowing-trinity@lists.cam.ac.uk
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 10:49 PM
Subject: Re: Oh no, here we go

Since this little baby appears to be my fault, I'll give a bit of an idea on what I think this thing should involve.

Those who want to join, what is essentially a drinking society under the banner of 1 and 3, will do so. We'll think of some silly, but unembarrassing ceremony for us all to go through. We will appoint, probably to begin with say six people who will take on ridiculous roles- the grand high master of some description, an enforcer, etc. These people will be some kind of committee, who will do what kind of stuff committees do. It will not iinvovle anything really, but might make them feel important. We'll then ask anyone who has rowed for us to join.

[...]

We'll get as carried away or not as the members see fit. The Tribe are serious- they have t-shirts, rituals etc. for every occasion. We'll just see where we go. The idea is for us to have fun and have fun as members of the boatclub from all boats and sexes.

S.

From: Chris Ingram
To: Simon Case, Cass Chideock
Cc: soc-rowing-trinity@lists.cam.ac.uk
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 11:00 PM
Subject: RE: Oh no, here we go

Can I join this thing?

And I want to have some ridiculously pointless position so I can feel important and do what committees do, which is to waffle on and debate some totally menial point, like what we should call ourselves or what font to use on a T-shirt etc.

From: Graham Fisher
To: soc-rowing-trintiy@lists.cam.ac.uk
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 12:09 AM
Subject: RE: Oh no, here we go

surely the T-shirt Font Sub-Committe would be merely a subsidiary of the Waffling & Faffing Committee, itself a part of the Grand High Council For Generally Getting Rat-Arsed Whenever Possible?

i hereby nominate chris for all of the above.

From: Simon Case
To: First and Third
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 12:32 AM
Subject: Re: Oh no, here we go (fwd)

What do the Ladies think of this idea? Don't shoot the messanger.

From: Cat
To: Simon Case
Cc: First and Third
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: Oh no, here we go (fwd)

What a bloody chauvenist comment. Why on earth would the ladies have any problems whatsoever with the idea. We drink too you know. And anyway, you've given us all far better reasons for shooting you over the last year or so, and yet we have allowed you to live. Why would we change all that now?

The not-so-feminist

cat.

From: Jon Glass
To: Cat, Simon Case
Cc: First and Third
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: Oh no, here we go (fwd)

Heere endeth another peacefulle dicussioun on the Firste and Thierd Liffte...

RIP

Perhaps Cat should form the "Causing-division-within-the-club-when-none-exists Committee" ?

From: Jon Glass
To: Graham Fisher, soc-rowing-trinity@lists.cam.ac.uk
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: Oh no, here we go

Can I be in charge of the faffing committee?

From: Cat
To: Jon Glass
Cc: Graham Fisher, soc-rowing-trinity@lists.cam.ac.uk
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: Oh no, here we go

Can I veto that plan. I reckon Chris would be far better at faffing than you.

From: Simon Case
To: Cat
Cc: Jon Glass, Graham Fisher, soc-rowing-trinity@lists.cam.ac.uk
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: Oh no, here we go

No you can't.

From: Simon Blackburn
Cc: The Imperial Navy
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: Oh no, here we go

We'll just have to have a vote on it. I suggest the Committee For The Establishment Of Voting Rights For Members of The Society (and the sub-committees on Colours-in-Residence and on Bufties Living Within 200 Miles Of Cambridge Who Are Still On The List) will have to look into the matter. As This Committee needs a chair, I suggest Chris Harding.

From: Martin Peck
To: soc-rowing-trinity@lists.cam.ac.uk
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: Oh no, here we go

I'm sure I'm not the only one who would rather not spend large parts of my day deleting messages that I haven't got the time to read - please could we muster some restraint from somewhere?

From: Simon Case
To: Martin Peck
Cc: soc-rowing-trinity@lists.cam.ac.uk
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: Oh no, here we go

Okay this is the last public message on the new FUN part of the boatclub, since those members of the old stuffy rowing bit are training so hard they are too tired to delete messages. If everyone asks Mr Earl very nicely, or anyone else who isn't a complete fuckwit when it comes to CompSci, maybe we can get a new list established for those interested.

John, we love you, mate. We think Americans are cool, and I most certainly have never shouted stand on a chair at you. I think you're taller than Big Jonny G.

S.

From: Simon Case
To: First and Third
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 7:16 PM
Subject: The Drinking Soc. arrives.

Ladies and Gentlemen, boys and girls, etc,

I am pleased to announce the birth of The First and Third Justice. "The Justice" as it shall be known, and the constitution thereof has finally come into being.

I am currently seeking suitable persons to fill five or six committee posts. Some people have already been approached, but if you're desparate you might just get a look in.

The exact date of the first sitting of "The Court of The Justice" will be announced shortly, after the committee has first sat. I will let you know more details as and when.

I am afraid that I cannot go about getting a new e-mail list sorted until Monday. Persons will either just have to hit delete, or I will set up a list of interested people in my address book, and we'll have to do it that way.

More to come, I promise.

From: Jon Glass
To: soc-rowing-trinity
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 5:26 PM
Subject: Justice

The members of the committee of The Justice, for and on behalf of the Law Lords, invite you to join The Justice.

Your first step is to join our e-mail list, and we will send you more details.

Send a blank message to the-justice-subscribe@egroups.com, and a whole new world will open up before you.

The Enforcer

From: Jon Glass
To: soc-rowing-trinity@lists.cam.ac.uk
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 9:17 PM
Subject: Last orders

That's right - it's your last chance to join The Justice before the first meeting next week.

If you have any embarrassing skeletons in your cupboard, we'd really love the opportunity to tell everyone else in teh boat club all about them as an excuse for an initiation. In fact, anyone who isn't there is just as likely to be tried, so you might as well be there to defend yourselves.

Seriously though, we want as many people as possible to be part fo The Justice so that we can all get to know each other and get drunk together without worrying about who's in which boat and (after this weekend) who's got an early morning tomorrow.

If you aren't yet a member, just send a blank e-mail to the-justice-subscribe@egroups.com which will make sure you get informed of all the events that we organise - but no junk mail! We hope to see as many people as possible at our first meeting on the Tuesday after the bumps.

See you at the stomp.

Jon (and the rest of the committee)

From: Jon Glass
To: the-justice@egroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 9:08 AM
Subject: The state of play

We currently number 32 - so we need lots of info to secure convictions at the first meeting.

If you have any dirt on any of the following, that we can use in evidence against them at the first trial of the justice, let us know in absolute confidence at:

the-justice-owner@egroups.com

Andrew Hogley    Chris Ingram    Martin Peck    Cass Chideock    Claire Postlethwaite    Chris Stone    Cammil Taank    Daniel Walker    G.A. Taylor    Graham Fisher    John Mountain    John Rudge    Jeremy Young    Jon Glass    James Percival    John Earl    Kate MacGregor    Kirsten Howie    Lisa Wright    Luke Robinson    Rob Sherrington    Rich Dewire    R.J. Reed    Rebecca North    Sophie Rickards    Sarah Taylor    Simon Case    Simon Blackburn    Simon Knight    S. Painter    T Ongena    Tom Rose

We are looking to establish permenant surveillance presence in Hall and the bar, with mobile teams to tail members trying to escape to other colleges. We _will_ find out what you have been up to, and no-one will become a full member of the society until they have answered for their crimes.

you have been warned

Enforcer

PS Any of you that currently don't have first names should let me know - we're all very friendly really.

From: G.A. Taylor
To: the-justice@egroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 9:53 PM

The G stands for Guy

It's a shame you've listed all the members. It was much more mysterious and authentic when I had no idea who was reading the messages. I had images of turning up to meetings in hoods and speaking monotone so as to hide our true identities. In the outside world no-one would speak anything of this black organisation, fearing recriminations if finally the day of judgement were to arrive.

Can we all have stupid names? I'd like to be 'O lemon sweatered one'. (Admittedly it's hard to see how this fits into the whole Justice theme.) Or possibly 'The lone yodler'. (Say that ten times fast).

I am at a loss to think of anything you could possibly get me for. Would you like me to commit some mortal sins over the next couple of weeks so as not to spoil the flow at the commital? (You know, landing blades tip down, that sort of thing)(or tip up, depending on the particular coach/cox combination, or whether Martin's around)(or Tom, or if there's an 'r' in the month...).

Yours eagerly,

G.

From: Simon Case
To: the-justice@egroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 10:17 PM

Right,

The Enforcer has made available an e-mail address for reporting on your friends. You are all expected to reveal secrets about a friend who you know is involved in the whole thing. The worse info you give us, the better you'll look, and the more lenient your fines will be. Good informers will be rewarded with leniency.

Prosc.

From: eGroups.com Calendar
To: the-justice@egroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2000 7:46 PM
Subject: First meeting and initiation

The is a summons to appear in court - details below

Event: First meeting and initiation
Date: Sunday March 05, 2000
Time: 12:00 am - 3:00 am
Description: The first meeting of the-justice is provisionally (waiting for confirmation) scheduled for the above date between 12 and 3. The venue will be the room upstairs at the maypole. Start getting the gossip in now - everyone must be initiated


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